Our Galaxy and the movement of planet Mercury

Question 1 How many theoretical revolutions around the Sun will the major axis (aphelion) of the planet Mercury make, during one revolution of the Sun around our Galaxy.
Question 2 Is "General Precession" important for the movement of Mercury when the Sun moves around our Galaxy
Question 3 How many revolutions around the Sun will the major axis (aphelion) of the planet Mercury actual make, during one revolution of the Sun through our Galaxy ?
Question 4 If you want to simulate this path is there length contraction involved ?
Question 5 If you want to simulate this path are there moving clocks involved ?
Question 6 If you want to simulate this path is variable mass involved ?
Question 7 What is the most important explanation that the path of the aphelion of Mercury is a horseshoe orbit ?


Purpose

The planet Mercury moves in an elliptic path around the Sun. The four parameters of an ellips are: major axis, minor axis, aphelion (longest distance) and perihelion (shortest distance)
The purpose of the questions (specific question 3) is, to find which path the aphelion of the planet Mercury follows, during one full revolution of the Sun through our Galaxy the Milky way.


Introduction - Question 3

The following picture consists of two parts
  1. The left part shows the movement of the Sun through our Galaxy
  2. The right part shows the movement of Mercury around the Sun in 1969. This is the start date of the simulations.
           <----  
             77                   			
           s     s             
        s         . s            
      s          .     s                <--
  |  s          .       s  ^             m  (perihelion)                      
  | s          .   phi   s |          m     m  
  |167        O.........347|        m    S    m        
  | s                    s |     | m           m ^       
  V  s                  s  |     | m           m |             
      s                s         V m           m |          
        s            s              m         m             
           s      s                   m     m
             257                         m  (aphelion)          
            ---->                       -->  
 O = Centre of Our Galaxy           S = Sun
 S = Sun                            m = Mercury 
                    Figure 1
The Sun moves in the direction of the arrow. Left side of "Figure 1". Speed is 250km/sec
In order to answer the question how the long axis behaves 4 simulations of 7 planets around the Sun are performed at different positions (identified by the angle phi) of the Sun within our galaxy. The four selected values of phi are 77 degrees, 167 degrees, 257 degrees and 347 degrees.
The results can be seen by selecting the targets 77, 167, 257 and 347 in the above picture.
The initial day of the simulations is 28 June 1969. This day comes from the book "Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac" page 304, which supplies initial conditions in x,y,z coordinates. At that day the direction of the long axis makes an angle of roughly 257 degrees in the x y plane. This is the position drawn in the right hand picture.

The results of the 4 simulations is sumarized in the following table.
phi 77 167 257 347
angle 2000 257,56 257,54 257,55 257,56
angle 6000 264,93 262,17 262,08 264,68
forward angle 2000 522,19 416,90 540,74 650,67
forward angle 6000 662,97 416,64 409,24 640,91
avg distance 2000 57966339 57886872 57805080 57884565
avg distance 6000 68283161 58452925 46699031 57077919

  1. The row "angle 2000" shows the angle of the aphelion at year 2000.
  2. The row "angle 6000" shows the angle of the aphelion at year 6000.
  3. The row "forward angle 2000" shows the forward angle in arc sec per century of the aphelion between 1969 and the year 2000.
  4. The row "forward angle 6000" shows the forward angle in arc sec per century of the aphelion between 1969 and the year 6000.
  5. The row "average distance 2000" shows the distance of the major axis divided by 2 of the year 2000.
  6. The row "average distance 6000" shows the distance of the major axis divided by 2 of the year 6000.

The difference between the 4 simulations is quite remarkable.


Answer question 1

The total revolution of the Sun around our Galaxy is 200 million years.
Total observed shift per century = 5599''.74 (See Gravitation page 1113)
Contribution to shift caused by observer not being in an enertial frame far from the sun ("General Precession") = 5025''.645 or 5025.645/3600 degrees.
That means the total shift per century is 574''.1 or 574.1/3600 degrees
Shift per century produced by Newtonian gravity of other planets = 531''.54
Residual Shift per century to be attributed to GR plus solar oblateness is 42''.56

The (theoretical) total time for one revolution of the long axis of the planet Mercury is: 360/(574.1/3600) centuries = 2257 centuries or 225745 years.
The (theoretical) total number of revolutions of the long axis of the planet Mercury during one revolution of the Sun through our Galaxy is 200000000/225745 = 886
This number assumes that the shift is constant.


Answer question 2

"General precession" is explained in Precession
"General precession" is identical with precession of the equinoxes or precession of the equator. The total time for one revolution of axis of the earth is: 360/(5025.645/3600) = 257 centuries or 25788 years.
The concept "General precession" is of no importance in order to simulate the movement of the planet Mercury, because the planet Earth is considered a point sized object. The same for all the objects involved. However the concept "General precession" is important to convert Earth based observations into galatic coordinates inorder to calculate the positions of the Sun and the planets at a given instant.


Answer question 3 - v Milky way = 0

In this paragraph the movement of the planet Mercury is studied assuming that the speed of the Milky Way is zero.

Answer question 3 - v Milky way is non 0

In this paragraph the movement of the planet Mercury is studied in relation to reference frame of the Cosmic Microwave Background radiation.

The North pole of the galaxy Galactic coordinate system.

In order to do the conversion from equatorial to ecliptical coordinates you can use: Astro Java
The Center of the galaxy Milky way is in the direction of Sagitarius A*. The Sun is moving towards the direction of the star Vega. In the reference frame of the "Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation" the Milky Way is moving with a speed of 552 km/sec towards the direction of Hydra.
foto gal
Figure 7A: Ecliptic plane 
foto gal
Figure 7B: Galactic plane 
Figure 7B resembles point 77 in "Figure 1". However and that is important the direction V is the opposite. The result is that the precession will be less than 531 degrees.


Answer question 4

IMO there is no length contraction involved in a simulation of the movement of any planet.
In order to perform a simulation of the movements of the planets through our galaxy in time you need a 3D grid of reference points each at equal distances in space. In this grid you mark the positions of all the objects relevant for your simultion at a certain moment in time. In fact you need many of those 3D grids to monitor or track the objects at different moments in time.

If you want to perform a simulation six steps are important:

  1. First you need a model or a set of differential (difference) equations which describe the movements of the objects you want to simulate. This can be Newton's Law or General Relativity (GR).
  2. Next you need a set of observations which describe physical parameters of the objects involved at different moments in time.
  3. Next you need a set of transformations to transform the observations into the parameters of the grid i.e. of the model.
  4. You need a set of initial conditions of the differential equations and you have to recalculate those initial conditions using the model, the parameters and the observations.
  5. You need a set of initial values of the parameters of the differential equations and you have to recalculate those parameters using the model the initial conditions and the observations.
  6. And Finally: Transformation of the coordinates of the calculations (The 3D grid) to the coordinates of the observations. This is where precession is taken in to account. The same with light travel time, moving clocks and light bending by mass.
Within all those steps the concept of length contraction is no issue. The most probably candidate is the model. Newton's Law as a first approximation considers objects as point masses or round objects. If they are not round than the shape has to be included.


Answer question 5

IMO there are no moving clocks involved in a simulation of the movement of any planet.
In the above text in order to simulate the movement of objects a 3D grid is discussed consisting of rods of the same length. The grid is considered at rest and the positions of the objects within the grid all apply to the same moment, as expressed by one clock at rest within the grid. If there are more the clocks at rest within the Grid then they all are supposed to run simultaneous.

Special Relavity studies the behaviour of moving clocks, specific what is called Relativity of Simulataneity
The simplest way to explain Relativity of Simulataneity is the following:

  1. Consider a moving train and a track. There are two observers one near the track and one on the moving train.
  2. Two lightning bolts hit the train and the track (almost ?) at the same moment each. They each leave two markings both on the train and the track.
  3. As it happens when the train stops, both, the observer near the track and on the train are standing at equal distance between the two markings at respectivily near the track and on train.
  4. Chances are that the Observer near the track will claim that he saw the two flashes simultaneous. The observer at the train in that case will claim that he did not see them simultaneous.
    This is easy to explain because the observer at the track will claim that he met the observer at the train "in the past" and not when he saw the two flashes simulataneous "at a later moment", because the train with the observer moved away. This is what is called Relativity of Simulataneity
  5. There is also a chance that the Observer at the train will claim that he saw the two flashes simultaneous. The observer at the track in that case will not claim that he saw them simultaneous.
    The explanation is that the observer at the train will claim that he met the observer at the track "in the past" and not when he saw the two flashes simulataneous "at a later moment" because as a matter of speaking "the track with the observer moved away". This is also: Relativity of Simulataneity
However everything is not as easy as it looks like.
  1. Consider one observer who stands at a moving train in the middle of two mirrors. Suppose he turns on a lamp, which transmits two lightsignals, which are reflected by two the mirrors. This reflection defines two events. The observer will always see those lightsignals simultaneous, independent of the speed of the train.
  2. The question is are those two events always simultaneous events? The issue is see versus are. IMO it does not make sense always to answer: Yes.
  3. The same problem exists with the lightning flashes or bolts in the above example. Are those lightning bolts simultaneous events ? IMO only in one special occasion.
  4. What makes the above example with the two observers even more complicated is that there is length contraction involved. When the moving train stops and when the distance between the two marks (caused by lightning) is measured it should be longer (accordingly to SR) than the length of the distance between the two marks near the track.
  5. The reason is because when the lightning strikes at that moment the distance (length) between the markings on the track and on the train should be identical. However (accordingly to SR) a moving ruler is subject to length contraction, compared to a ruler at rest. This again means that when the train stops it should increase in size. The result is an increase in distance between the markers on the train.


Answer question 6

As far as I can see the masses of the objects involved are constant.
This is definitively the case if Newton's Law is considered as the model to perform the simulations. In fact in order to predict the future based on the past observations, first the masses of the objects have to be calculated, under the assumption that each is constant and that the total number of objects did not change. Collisions between objects can be considered, assuming that the total mass before and after is also the same.
Special Relativity uses the concept of a rest mass. This is the mass of an object at rest (v=0) within the coordinate system. IMO if you perform a simulation within the galaxy rest frame none of the masses involved are at rest. As such I expect that within GR the concept of rest mass is not used, in order to describe the movement of objects.


Answer question 7

What is the reason that the aphelion of Mercury follows a horseshoe orbit ?


Reflection

In Wikipedia we read about relativity of simultaneity the following:
The observer onboard the train sees the front and back of the traincar at fixed distances from the source of light and as such, according to this observer, the light will reach the front and back of the traincar at the same time.
This demonstration very much resembles the situation as described above with the single observer except that the readers from Wikipedia get a complete wrong message. What is not drawn are the reflections from the front and the back and that is what the observer sees. The real questions to answer is are the two moments that the light hits the front and the back two simultaneous events.
Near the drawings there is also the remark: length contraction not depicted . Apparently for the authors this is an issue, but what the consequences are (if they know which) is not mentioned.

In the bibliographis record by Albert Einstein: 9. The Relativity of Simultaneity we read:

Are two events (e.g. the two strokes of lightning A and B) which are simultaneous with reference to the railway embankment also simultaneous relatively to the train ?
This raises the question: How do you know that two events are simultaneous ?

What makes the two documents so remarkably is that the two are so differently, while they try to explain the same concept. The Wikipedia document starts from one event which results in two simultaneous events, independent of the speed of the train. The A. Einstein document starts from two (simultaneous) events which results one event (observation) if the observer stands in the middle.

One concept used is what is called rest frame. A rest frame is a frame in which the speed of the observer is zero. The observer at the track is in a rest frame if his speed v = 0. The observer at the moving train is also in a rest frame (of the moving train) if he stands still (v = 0) in the train.
The important question to answer is: Are the trajectories of moving objects (Stars and planets) dependent of any such rest frame with an observer at rest. IMO the answer is: No. Moving Objects in space have nothing to do with the human concept of a rest frame nor with the human concept of simultaneous. Moving Objects are influenced by only by each other. Newton's Law assumes (in its original form) that this influence acts instantaneous. In the simulations this is not assumed. The transport mechanism are gravitons.

See also the following Usenet discussion: How important is SR/GR inorder to calc the precession of Mercury


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Created: 13 August 2010
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